Episode 271
Nov 04, 2026

Geek Therapy: Healing Through Fandoms and Special Interests [featuring Ariel Landrum]

Hosted by: Patrick Casale
The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur Podcast

Show Notes

What changes in therapy when we take our clients' fandoms and special interests as seriously as the rest of their lived experiences?

Patrick Casale sits down with Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Certified Art Therapist, and Geek Therapy educator Ariel Landrum to explore how fandoms, gaming, and special interests can create meaningful connections in therapy.

From Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones to challenging traditional ideas of professionalism, they discuss the importance of authenticity, cultural understanding, and meeting clients in the worlds that matter to them.

3 Key Takeaways:

  1. Special interests can open the door to deeper conversations. Fandoms, fictional characters, and shared interests can help people explore emotions, relationships, identity, and difficult experiences.
  2. Authenticity can make therapy more accessible. Rigid expectations of professionalism may create unnecessary barriers to trust, connection, and self-expression.
  3. Therapists need to understand what matters to their clients. Geek culture and other personal interests deserve the same curiosity, respect, and cultural humility as any other meaningful part of someone's identity.

More about Ariel:

Ariel Landrum is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Certified Art Therapist, Geek Therapy Certified, and PsyD student based in Los Angeles. She is the founder and Clinical Director of Guidance Teletherapy, where she provides affirming, culturally humble telehealth services for adults, and she specializes in trauma-informed, creative, and geek-informed care. Ariel is also a speaker, educator, and board member with the nonprofit Geek Therapy and a co-lead of the Great Los Angeles Chapter of Therapin*y, a nonprofit directory and community space for Filipino healers.

 


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Episode 271: Geek Therapy: Healing Through Fandoms and Special Interests [featuring Ariel Landrum]

Show Notes

What changes in therapy when we take our clients' fandoms and special interests as seriously as the rest of their lived experiences?

Patrick Casale sits down with Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Certified Art Therapist, and Geek Therapy educator Ariel Landrum to explore how fandoms, gaming, and special interests can create meaningful connections in therapy.

From Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones to challenging traditional ideas of professionalism, they discuss the importance of authenticity, cultural understanding, and meeting clients in the worlds that matter to them.

3 Key Takeaways:

  1. Special interests can open the door to deeper conversations. Fandoms, fictional characters, and shared interests can help people explore emotions, relationships, identity, and difficult experiences.
  2. Authenticity can make therapy more accessible. Rigid expectations of professionalism may create unnecessary barriers to trust, connection, and self-expression.
  3. Therapists need to understand what matters to their clients. Geek culture and other personal interests deserve the same curiosity, respect, and cultural humility as any other meaningful part of someone's identity.

More about Ariel:

Ariel Landrum is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Certified Art Therapist, Geek Therapy Certified, and PsyD student based in Los Angeles. She is the founder and Clinical Director of Guidance Teletherapy, where she provides affirming, culturally humble telehealth services for adults, and she specializes in trauma-informed, creative, and geek-informed care. Ariel is also a speaker, educator, and board member with the nonprofit Geek Therapy and a co-lead of the Great Los Angeles Chapter of Therapin*y, a nonprofit directory and community space for Filipino healers.

 


๐ŸŽ™๏ธListen to more episodes of The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur Podcast
๐ŸŽ™๏ธSpotify

๐ŸŽ™๏ธApple

๐ŸŽ™๏ธYouTube Music
โ–ถ๏ธ YouTube
โœˆ๏ธ Check out available Retreats
๐Ÿ—จ๏ธ Join The NeuroPreneur Circle Community
๐Ÿ—จ๏ธ Join the free Empowered Escape FB Community


A Thanks to Our Sponsors: The Receptionist for iPad!

โœจThe Receptionist for iPad

I want to thank The Receptionist for iPad for sponsoring this episode.

The Receptionist for iPad is a HIPAA-ready digital check-in system that eliminates the need to walk back and forth from your office to the waiting room to see if your next appointment has arrived. Clients or patients can check in for their appointments, and you'll be immediately notified by text, email, or your preferred channel. Break free from interruptions and make the most of your time, because it is valuable. Start a free 14-day trial of the Receptionist for iPad by going to thereceptionist.com/privatepractice. Make sure to start your trial with that link to get your first month free if you decide to sign up.


Free Gifts for Our Listeners

โœจ Free Podcasting Workbook

Get a practical podcasting workbook for therapists considering starting a podcast, created by Patrick Casale, host of the podcasts The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur and Divergent Conversations.

You'll get a practical structure for therapists who want to start a podcast but don’t want to rush, perform, or build something they can’t sustain.

Grab your free copy: ndpod.org/Free-Podcasting-Workbook

โœจ Move Beyond Private Practice As A Neurodivergent Entrepreneur

Move Beyond Private Practice As A Neurodivergent Entrepreneur is a FREE 5-part mini-course designed for therapists who want sustainable financial independence beyond one-on-one work.

Access your free mini-course here: ndpod.org/Neurodivergent-Entrepreneur


 

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